Andre Dawson and Eddie Murray… reunited

Andre Dawson is now in the Hall of Fame and he will be forever linked to heroes and legends of Cooperstown… like Eddie Murray.

Now why of all of the Hall of Famers did I pick Steady Eddie?

It’s simple, really.

Andre Dawson was the Rookie of the Year in 1977 for the National League.
Eddie Murray was the American League Rookie of the Year the same year.

So often the Rookie of the Year is given to a flash in the pan (did someone say Joe Charboneau? Marty Cordova? Pat Listach?) or players who start off looking like superstars but flame out (Fred Lynn, Mark Fidrych, Fernando Valenzuela, Dwight Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, Nomar Garciaparra).

But that got me thinking… several Hall of Famers have won the Rookie of the Year… but how often has the Rookie of the Year in both leagues given to a future Hall of Famer.

Now let me preface this by saying I am talking about people CURRENTLY elected to the Hall of Fame. No doubt Derek Jeter, Mike Piazza and Albert Pujols will all get it… but they aren’t in yet, so I’m not bringing them into the discussion.

Now as I type this, I don’t know the answer… so let’s find out!

For the first few seasons there was only one award… but in the 1950s, both leagues awarded a rookie.

And looking up on Baseball Reference, the greatest website in the world, I see it has happened only two times before.



So we’ve had it happen in the 1950s and the 1960s and 1970s.

It won’t happen with players from the 1980s.

The National League winners are filled with players who started off brilliantly but were derailed by injuries or drugs.

The American League Rookie of the Year winners from the 1980s yielded a single Hall of Famer, Cal Ripken, a few flashes in the pan (like Charboneau and Ron Kittle) and of course Canseco and McGwire.

The 1990s have Derek Jeter in the American League winning in 1996… but it is safe to say Todd Hollandsworth, the NL winner that year, doesn’t have a realistic shot.

So when will there be a fourth set of Hall of Fame Rookie of the Years from the same year?

It’s looking like 2001… Ichiro and Pujols both broke in… and as of this writing, they both seem like locks.

(It’s too early to tell for 2009 winners Andrew Bailey and Chris Coghlan!)

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David Segui got a vote? Sure, why not?

Each year there is a sympathy vote given here and there to a player for the Hall of Fame.

Jay Buhner got a vote in 2007… no doubt from a sports writer who thought Jay was a hell of a nice guy.

Now one of these years, some player will buy 405 sports writers a lobster dinner and have them throw in a “he’s a hell of a nice guy” vote and we’ll see someone like Bobby Higginson in the Hall of Fame… but I digress.

David Segui got a single vote this year, and it is no doubt bewildering to some. Mike over at The Sport’s Pig Blog demands to know who it was.

But I think in a way, as a protest vote, it kind of makes sense.

Not in terms of his stats. He played 150 games once over a 15 year career. Hit over 20 homers once. He never once sniffed an All Star Game.

He was a good .291 career hitter with a career OPS of .802 which I think is good. But nothing special.

And if anyone knows anything about Segui, it was he was a juicer.

And frankly he isn’t the best advertisement for ‘roids use. If a talented hitter was on the juice, shouldn’t they be putting up massive numbers… like McGwire or Rafael Palmeiro.

But what did David do that McGwire, Palmeiro, Bonds, Clemens et al didn’t?


And in the end, isn’t that what people are pissed about regarding the ‘roids? Being lied to.

When A-Rod and Pettite admitted to being juicers, didn’t people start to move on?

What they did was the same as Clemens and Palmeiro did…

but they didn’t go to Congress and say the didn’t use anything…

and they didn’t wag their finger at Congress.

(Isn’t it odd that Jose Canseco dropped off of the ballot so quickly and yet Mark McGwire is sticking around?)

Maybe the vote for Segui was a vote for “just admitting it.”

Oh who am I kidding? He was a mediocre player and some writer lost his damn mind.

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