Sully Baseball Daily Podcast – November 17, 2013


Today on The Sully Baseball Daily Podcast, I pay tribute to Tom Seaver on his 69th birthday.

The man who meant so much to the Mets kept being traded or drafted away from the team. And actually could have been the latest in the line of Dodger greats.

And lest we forget, he was also one of my favorite announcers ever.

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Sully Baseball Daily Podcast – November 17, 2013



Nolan Ryan = George Harrison… bear with me. It makes sense.

Nolan Ryan and George Harrison had very similar careers.
That statement may seem like a stretch.

One was a Texas born fireballer who now hangs out with former President Bush.
The other was a native of Liverpool who jammed with Ravi Shankar.

Not much in common on the surface.

But trust me, The Ryan Express and The Quiet Beatle had many parallels.

1. As young men, they were overshadowed by their more famous teammates/bandmates

The pitching talent on the 1969 Mets was fantastic. And 22 year old Nolan Ryan could not take the spotlight away from Tom Seaver, the best pitcher in the league.

With a staff that included Seaver, Jerry Koosman and Gary Gentry in the rotation and Ron Taylor and Tug McGraw in the bullpen, it was tough for Ryan to leave his mark. The talent was there (92 strikeouts in 89 1/3 innings) but the chances to display the talent were limited.

George Harrison was brought into the Beatles to be the lead guitarist. The group already had a pair of alpha dogs who did the lionshare of the composing and handling the lead vocals. As great as George was, he only got one or two tracks per album.

John Lennon and Paul McCartney were like a pair of Tom Seavers.

2. Both had great moments of glory at Shea Stadium in the 1960’s

On August 15, 1965, the same year the Mets drafted Nolan Ryan out of Alvin High School, George and his Beatle mates played a little concert at Shea Stadium.

55,000 people showed up to see them play, which at the time was the largest venue they had ever performed in.

It was considered to be the high watermark of their live performing in terms of their legacy. It was also the biggest event Shea Stadium had ever seen up until that point. (That same day the Mets and Al Jackson shut out the Houston Astros 3-0 in the Astrodome. The Mets were in last place, 32 1/2 games behind the Dodgers.)

The next great moment in Shea Stadium history took place on October 6, 1969. The Mets defeated the Atlanta Braves, 7-4, and clinched the National League pennant. The pitcher on the mound when they clinched? Nolan Ryan.

8 days later, Shea Stadium hosted its first World Series game as the Mets beat the Orioles 5-0 in Game 3 of the 1969 World Series. The pitcher on the mound at the end of the game? Nolan Ryan.

3. Both gave previews of their future greatness

George’s contributions to the Beatles became more and more significant, even if his allotment of songs did not increase.

His songs evolved from Taxman and If I Needed Someone to the iconic While My Guitar Gently Weeps.

By the time Abbey Road and Let It Be came about, some of the best songs were from George Harrison. Something, Here Comes The Sun and I Me Mine were among those album’s highlights.

Meanwhile the Mets of the early 1970’s were still Tom Seaver’s team. But Nolan Ryan was showing flashes of his future dominance. He struck out 15 batters in one game on April 18, 1970, setting a Mets record that Seaver would break just a few days later. The spotlight was never far from Seaver, but the Texas kid clearly had ability that could not be contained.

4. Both took to a great change by achieving beyond people’s expectations

The Mets gave up on Nolan Ryan after the 1971 season, shipping him off to the California Angels in exchange for Jim Fregosi.

With a clean slate, Ryan put together numbers that had never been seen before. The Ryan Express led the league in strikeouts in the first three seasons in Anaheim. His 383 strikeouts in 1973 remain the most in a single season for the modern era.

He started compiling strikeouts and no hitters at a record clip. His pitches were the fastest ever recorded. He led the league in strikeouts for seven of his eight years in California. The talent that was hinted at in New York exploded in California and would continue as he moved on to Houston after the 1979 playoffs.

As Nolan Ryan was transforming into the American League’s most intimidating pitcher, George Harrison’s talents exploded after the Beatles disbanded.

No longer confined to a few songs an album, George released “All Things Must Pass”, the musical equivalent of Nolan Ryan’s 383 strikeouts.

The double album was filled with tracks that never made it onto Beatles albums. (A version of the title track was featured in the Beatles Anthology.)

My Sweet Lord, What is Life, Wah Wah, Isn’t it a Pity, All Things Must Pass, Behind that Locked Door, I Dig Love, Let it Down… there were more great tracks on the album than anyone could have guessed from “The Quiet Beatle.”

George continued to write and sing great songs in the 1970s. Living in the Material World had many great songs. His Concert for Bangladesh was one of the great live albums and a precursor to Live Aid.

5. Both had a resurgence in the mid to late 1980s

Nolan Ryan never went away. He kept striking out batters and throwing no hitters. But in 1987 at age 40, he led the National League in strikeouts and earned run average. At age 41, he led the National League in strikeouts again.

In 1989, he moved from the Astros to the Rangers. Not only did he not miss a beat at age 42, he got better.

He struck out 301 batters in his first year with the Rangers, the highest total in the majors.

He would lead the league with 232 k’s at age 43 with the 1990 Rangers. He compiled two more no hitters, giving him a record seven. And as a Ranger he passed the 5,000 strikeouts mark. His final total, 5,714, remains nearly 1,000 more than the runner up (Randy Johnson’s 4,875.)

A new generation appreciated Ryan’s brilliance. Older men looked at Ryan’s longevity as an inspiration and the endorsement money poured in.

And the last image of Ryan’s career might have been his fight with Robin Ventura, a sign that the old guy had some spark in him against the young up and coming players.

Meanwhile George Harrison emerged from a few years out of the spotlight (especially after John Lennon’s murder) with the release of the album Cloud Nine.

His 1987 collaboration with producer Jeff Lynne became one of his biggest successes. He covered an obscure 1960’s Rudy Clark song “Got My Mind Set On You” and turned it into a number one hit.

He composed his own songs including the title track, “This is Love” and his Beatles inspired “When We Was Fab.”

In 1988, as Ryan was finishing his time in Houston, Harrison was involved in another unexpected success. The Traveling Wilbury’s released their first album. The group that featured Harrison, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison and Jeff Lynne. They had several hits including “Handle with Care” and “End of the Line”.

The Quiet Beatle made all new fans, many of whom discovered his previous tracks for the first time.

6. Both had success behind the scenes

In the late 1970’s through the 1980’s when George Harrison’s musical output was minimal, he was still contributing to the entertainment world.

Along with a business partner, he set up Handmade Films and proceeded to produce some of the most profitable and some of the best British films of the era.

Monty Python’s Life of Brian was their maiden voyage. Not a bad first film out of the gate. Handmade Films also produced Time Bandits, Mona Lisa and Withnail and I.

Meanwhile Nolan Ryan took over as principal owner of the Texas Rangers. The result was a turnaround of a moribund franchise. The team became a regular contender, winning the 2010 and 2011 American League pennant. They got to within one strike in two different innings of winning the 2011 World Series.

7. Both appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show in the 1960’s

Granted, the Beatles multiple performances on The Ed Sullivan Show (no relation to me) were just a little more celebrated than Ryan’s.

In fact the Beatles arrival on the Ed Sullivan stage was considered to be one of the great significant moments in pop culture history.

Maybe it wasn’t as well known as the Fab Four’s debut. But Nolan Ryan sang along with several of his 1969 Met teammates on the Sullivan stage not long after their World Series clincher.

They sang the song “You’ve Gotta Have Heart” from Damn Yankees.

The screaming for the Mets was not as constant as it was for the Beatles.

So there you have it.
On first glance, they might not look similar.

But Nolan Ryan and George Harrison had their share of similarities. Both were legends. Both exceeded expectations.

If Nolan Ryan’s wife left him for Eric Clapton, then it would have been even more apt.

Let’s let George play us out.

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Getting ready for kick off… thinking about the 1986 World Series

OF COURSE I am thinking about the 1986 World Series… what else would I be thinking about as the games deciding the Super Bowl berths are about to be played.

But I am not thinking about it for the reasons that you would think.

In the past, I lamented 1986 as the ultimate “what might have been.”
But 2004 and 2007 put that to rest.

Then I lamented the great flop of 1986 when I thought of Jim Rice’s candidacy for the Hall of Fame. Had the Red Sox won in 1986, I argued, Rice would have been in the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. He didn’t have Ted’s stats or Yaz’s stats… but the Sox would have won when Rice was captain.

Rice’s election last year put that to rest.

But today’s Jets game got me thinking about that fateful 10th inning.
The Mets and Jets are very similar franchises… and not just because their names rhyme.

They are second banana franchises in their own cities. The Yankees own the baseball scene and the Giants have always had a bigger following.

They both have had their share of heart break and dysfunction over the years.

Both have fan bases that have listened to Yankee fans and Giant fans crow about their more recent titles. The Yankees with their 27 titles and the Giants with Super Bowl titles in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s.

And of course they each had, over a period of 9 months in 1969, a startling championship that defined their franchise to this very day.

Both seemed beyond the realm of possibility… the AFL was supposed to be inferior to the NFL and the Super Bowl had been a lackluster joke in its first two games.

And of course the Mets averaged a 56-106 record for each of its first seven seasons.

Both teams rode the back of a brash new superstar… Broadway Joe predicting the outcome by the poolside…

Tom Terrific mowing down NL batters left and right heading into the Series.

And oddly, they both beat heavily favored teams that played in Baltimore.

Now there is one huge difference between the franchises:

The Jets have never won since. The Mets have… one other time.

The Mets have that, for them, Amazin’ moment of coming back from 2 runs down, 2 outs, nobody on in the 10th that was so beautifully recreated in this video game.

Now just imagine if the Mets never won that game. (And NO, I am not going to say “Imagine if Buckner made that play. The game was already tied. Buckner’s error prevented the game from going into the 10th. It neither clinched the World Series for the Met nor would have clinched the World Series for the Red Sox… please tattoo that on your wrist.)

Imagine if Gary Carter made an out… or Kevin Mitchell made an out… or Schraldi got that third strike on Ray Knight… or Mookie Wilson swung and missed on one of his 2 strike foul balls against Bob Stanley.

Trust me, I did every day of my life between October 1986 to October 2004.

But I always thought of the Red Sox side… for the Mets, they would still be pining for 1969.

1986 would have been thrown on the scrap pile of frustrations along with the end of the 1973 World Series, the trade of Seaver, the Scioscia homer in 1988, the bases loaded walk to end the 1999 NLCS, losing to the Yankees in the 2000 World Series, the called third on Beltran, the great collapse of 2007, the almost as great collapse of 2008…

All the while clinging to their lone moment of glory in 1969.

Kind of like the Jets do now, still waiting for that second great highlight to go with Joe Willy Namath running off the field, finger in the air.

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