Sully Baseball Daily Podcast – October 13, 2015



The final 4 game day of the year was totally bonkers and setting up an end to the Division Series that I can not predict and neither can you!

It is an up in the air episode of The Sully Baseball Daily Podcast.

Jorge Soler, Jake Arrieta, Travis d’Arnaud, Wade Davis, R. A. Dickey, Matt Harvey, Eric Hosmer, Kevin Pillar, Carlos Correa, Shin-Soo Choo, Adrian Gonzalez, Jason Heyward and Lance McCullers all added to their totals for Who Owns October
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Teams with multiple pitchers with post season saves since 1969

(Photo by Vaughn Ridley/Getty Images)

(Photo by Vaughn Ridley/Getty Images)

The Rangers have played two game in the post season and have two saves from two different pitchers. And neither of those pitchers are named Shawn Tolleson who led the team with 35 saves.

It is refreshing when managers make decisions based on the situation rather than just drag the closer out in the 9th as a default. (Sam Dyson pitched the 9th in Game 1 instead of Tolleson. Manager Jeff Banister used Tolleson in Game 2 when it was NOT a save situation.)

The save became an official stat in 1969. Teams in the post season initially played to the situation instead of using the closer in all close 9th innings. But as saves began to pile up (especially after Tony LaRussa began using Dennis Eckersley one inning at time) and the prices of an innings closers sky rocketed, managers seemed to manage by the book and stick the closer in no matter what.

Every once in a while, a team will have multiple pitchers record a save in a post season. It does not happen often, but they pop up. Just last year, the Giants had 3 different pitchers credited with a save. If Tolleson saves a game, then the Rangers will match that total.

So here are all the teams to use more than one pitcher to save a game since 1969.

Teams with multiple pitchers with post season saves since 1969
1969 New York Mets – Ron Taylor (WS), Nolan Ryan (WS)
1970 Baltimore Orioles – Pete Richert (WS), Dick Hall (WS)
1970 Cincinnati Reds – Clay Carroll (NLCS), Don Gullett (NLCS)
1972 Oakland A’s – Vida Blue (ALCS), Rollie Fingers (WS)
1972 Cincinnati Reds – Clay Carroll (WS), Jack Billingham (WS), Tom Hall (WS)
1973 New York Mets – Tug McGraw (NLCS, WS), George Stone (WS), Ray Sadecki (WS)
1973 Oakland A’s – Rollie Fingers (ALCS, WS), Darold Knowles (WS)
1974 Oakland A’s – Rollie Fingers (ALCS, WS), Catfish Hunter (WS)
1975 Cincinnati Reds – Pedro Borbon (NLCS), Rawly Eastwick (WS), Will McEnaney (WS)
1976 Cincinnati Reds – Pedro Borbon (NLCS), Will McEnaney (WS)
1978 New York Yankees – Ken Clay (ALCS), Rich Gossage (ALCS)
1979 Pittsburgh Pirates – Don Robinson (NLCS), Kent Tekulve (WS)
1980 Philadelphia Phillies – Tug McGraw (NLCS, WS), Ron Reed (WS)
1981 Los Angeles Dodgers – Bob Welch (NLCS), Steve Howe (WS)
1982 Milwaukee Brewers – Pete Ladd (ALCS), Jim Slaton (ALCS), Bob McClure (WS)
1983 Baltimore Orioles – Sammy Stewart (ALCS), Tippy Martinez (WS)
1984 San Diego Padres – Rich Gossage (NLCS), Craig Lefferts (WS)
1985 St. Louis Cardinals – Ken Dayley (NLCS), Todd Worrell (WS), Jeff Lahti (WS)
1986 Boston Red Sox – Calvin Schraldi (ALCS, WS), Bob Stanley (WS)
1987 Minnesota Twins – Juan Berenguer (ALCS), Jeff Reardon (ALCS, WS)
1987 St. Louis Cardinals – Ken Dayley (NLCS, WS), Todd Worrell (NLCS, WS)
1988 Los Angeles Dodgers – Alejandro Pena (NLCS), Orel Hershiser (NLCS), Brian Holton (NLCS), Jay Howell (WS)
1990 Cincinnati Reds – Randy Myers (NLCS, WS), Rob Dibble (NLCS)
1990 Pittsburgh Pirates – Ted Power (NLCS), Bob Patterson (NLCS)
1990 Oakland Athletics – Dennis Eckersley (ALCS), Rick Honeycutt (ALCS)
1991 Pittsburgh Pirates – Bob Walk (NLCS), Roger Mason (NLCS)
1992 Toronto Blue Jays – Tom Henke (ALCS, WS), Mike Timlin (WS)
1992 Atlanta Braves – Jeff Reardon (NLCS), Mike Stanton (WS)
1993 Philadelphia Phillies – Mitch Williams (NLCS), Larry Andersen (NLCS)
1995 Atlanta Braves – Mark Wohlers (DS, NLCS, WS) Greg McMichael (NLCS), Pedro Borbon (WS)
1995 Seattle Mariners – Norm Charlton (DS, ALCS), Bill Risley (DS)
1996 Baltimore Orioles – Randy Myers (DS), Armando Benitez (ALCS)
1997 Cleveland Indians – Jose Mesa (DS, ALCS, WS), Brian Anderson (WS)
1998 San Diego Padres – Trevor Hoffman (DS, NLCS), Donne Wall (NLCS)
1999 Atlanta Braves – Kevin Millwood (DS), John Rocker (DS, NLCS), John Smoltz (NLCS)
1999 New York Yankees – Mariano Rivera (DS, ALCS, WS), Ramiro Mendoza (ALCS)
2000 New York Mets – John Franco (DS), Armando Benitez (NLCS, WS)
2003 Florida Marlins – Ugueth Urbina (DS, NLCS, WS), Braden Looper (NLCS)
2003 Chicago Cubs – Joe Borowski (DS), Mike Remlinger (NLCS)
2003 Boston Red Sox – Derek Lowe (DS), Scott Williamson (ALCS)
2005 Chicago White Sox – Bobby Jenks (DS, WS), Mark Buehrle (WS)
2007 Colorado Rockies – Manny Corpas (DS, NLCS), Ryan Speier (NLCS)
2008 Tampa Bay Rays – Dan Wheeler (DS), David Price (ALCS)
2009 Philadelphia Phillies – Brad Lidge (DS, NLCS), Ryan Madson (WS)
2010 Texas Rangers – Darren Oliver (ALCS), Neftali Feliz (WS)
2011 Detroit Tigers – Jose Valverde (DS, ALCS), Phil Coke (ALCS)
2012 Detroit Tigers – Jose Valverde (DS), Phil Coke (ALCS)
2014 San Francisco Giants – Santiago Castilla (DS, NLCS, WS), Hunter Strickland (DS), Madison Bumgarner (WS)
2015 Texas Rangers – Sam Dyson (DS), Ross Ohlendorf (DS)


Doesn’t anyone want to win the AL Cy Young Award?

AP Photo - Pat Sullivan

AP Photo – Pat Sullivan

The race for the National League Cy Young Award is fascinating. Front runners Jake Arrieta and Zack Greinke may be neck and neck until the end of the season with Clayton Kershaw (last night’s loss not withstanding) hovering right behind them. All 3 are having amazing seasons and dominant finishes.

The American League Cy Young race might be decided in the final week as well, but for a different reason.

Front runner Dallas Keuchel and chief challenger Sonny Gray seem to be playing a game of “after you” and “no I couldn’t possibly, after YOU.”

As we saw last year, a strong finish can capture the Cy Young. Just remember Corey Kluber’s dynamite September snatching away the honor from King Felix Hernandez (who really only had a couple of bad games.)

This week, presumed leader Dallas Keuchel took the mound and needed to do what an ace does: His Astros needed a win desperately and they needed him to go long. What did he do against the Rangers?

He got clobbered and the Rangers padded their lead. A pair of first inning Rangers homers put the Astros in a 6-0 hole. Keuchel didn’t make it out of the fifth, allowing 11 hits (including 3 homers) and 9 runs, all of them earned. On the bright side, he didn’t walk anyone.

Keuchel still leads the league in wins and innings pitched and second in ERA. But his numbers are not as gaudy as they were in the first half.

Sonny Gray came into Houston last night, looking to make his case for the award. Hovering right behind Keuchel in innings pitched and ERA, Gray could make his move by dominating the reeling Astros.

The A’s gave Gray 6 runs to play with and it wasn’t enough. Gray didn’t make it out of the 6th, allowing 8 hits, 4 walks and 5 earned runs. He didn’t get the loss, but who are we kidding? An ace needs to give you at least 6 innings and fewer than 12 baserunners! The A’s lost 10-6. This is his third terrible start in his last 4 games.

On August 17, his ERA was 2.04. After today it is 2.72. Still a respectable number, but he has been far from an ace recently.

This of course could lead to David Price sneaking in. He has been dominant in 9 starts for the Blue Jays after 21 strong outings for Detroit. He already has 208 1/3 innings and leads the league in ERA and ERA+. He would be the first Cy Young winner to play on multiple teams since Rick Sutcliffe won the 1984 Cy for the Cubs after coming over in a deal from Cleveland.

Price next starts on Monday against the Yankees where he can inch Toronto closer to a Division Title. Maybe a great start could give him the numbers AND the narrative to win it.

Imagine stealing away a Cy Young award on the open free agent market for Price (joining NL Cy Young leader and free agent to be Zack Greinke.)

He should cash in well.

Meanwhile Keuchel and Gray have a few more starts to try and win this thing.

Come on guys! Act like you want it!